June 10, 2007 - Video Release Explanation Options

[Talia]

Hi all,

Asaf and I wanted to shed some light about the recent (and final) changes that we recently made to the site.

First of all, an explanation about the Most Recent page. Like we wrote in the previous post on the day we released this new system, videos are released to the Most Recent page within 3 hours from the moment of submission to the site. However, this no longer means your video will appear in our top lists immediately.

In order to appear on the Highest Rated, Most Discussed, and Most Viewed pages, your video still needs to have a minimum amount of ranks (which has been drastically reduced by half) and a minimum amount of views. This is to make sure that the videos have been ranked by a variety of people, thus ensuring the rank is the rank chosen by the community, and not the first few people who viewed it.

This means that although your video hits the Most Recent page MUCH quicker, it still needs to work hard to get to the top pages. Don’t forget that for each video of yours that is waiting to get to the Top Videos, so are many others, so you are not losing your chances of appearing on those pages for up to 48 hours, like before.

[MaKaVeLi]

Confusing...but interesting...

[Mr.Illusion]

"This means that although your video hits the Most Recent page MUCH quicker, it still needs to work hard to get to the top pages",how can a video work hard if its not given enough time for it to even "work"...videos are running to the back pages too fast

[Talia]

it means that just like before, it needs to gain a certain amount of views and ranks to be released, though less ranks than before. And it also means that your video is exposed to the public TWICE now on the site, where there can be a difference of a few days between both, meaning you can actually have a better chance of doing well.

[kipkay]

Okay, so for everyone who sometimes has brain freeze like me or who has surpassed a certain number of lost brain cells...

Let's see if this is right and clear for me and everyone.

1. I submit a video. (I think I get that part)
TIME STAMP 1

2. The video is reviewed by people using the application who have said they want to be reviewers and also by direct links, blogs, etc. (not yet indexed on the site or searchable)

3. The video is released to the Today > Most Recent page after a maximum of 3 hours regardless of ranking or number of views.
(Now indexed and searchable)
TIME STAMP 2

4. After a certain number of views and ranks, the video is released to the Today > Highest Rated page(s) wherever it falls according to the rank at a time determined by the amount of views/ranks.
TIME STAMP 3

5. The video moves off the Today > Most Recent page(s) and to the Top Videos > This Week page(s) where it remains for 7 days, then moves to the This Month.

Talia, is this correct? Please say yes, or clarify, so we can get on with the business at hand..submitting videos.

[MaKaVeLi]

well let's hope we can do something good with it...i really want things to chill out

[kipkay]

well let's hope we can do something good with it...i really want things to chill out

Let's let Talia reply.

[tomboys2]

Thanks Kip! Very well explained!

[kipkay]

Not sure if it's correct or not though.

[tomboys2]

So we have a video with 800+ views.... on Most recent.
But it is not showing up under "most discussed" or highest rated.
Does it need to move off of most recent before it does that?

Thanks!

[kipkay]

I think you will see it on Most Recent AND Highest Rated once it makes it there which looks like it could take 3-4 hours or a few days to move. When Talia wakes up hopefully she will set us all straight. I just saw a video appear on Highest Rated with a Time Stamp of 21 hours ago. It was not there an hour ago.

[Talia]

Okay, the description is right - I'm not positive about the time stamps though. I'll find out and let you know. As for your video, Tomboys, it's on the Highest Rated but not Most Discussed and I'm not sure why so Asaf is checking it out.

[kipkay]

Yea! I got it right. I'm gonna print that and laminate it. LOL!

I think the descriptions on changes need to be 'dumbed down' and made as clear as possible so there is no confusion. ( I know some people will always be confused anyway)

Thanks!

[Talia]

I have been inflicted with a horrible disease that I call "Excessive Wordiness" or EW for short (hehe) where I have a tendency to say more instead of less. It's because I type so fast that I don't see that I say a lot. Anyway, I'll try to be more clear next time.

[Mr.Illusion]

So its possible that we dont get the 3rd timestamp because our video might not make it to the highest rated page...am I right?

[beachgal]

With a 3.30 shouldn't this video show up on the 3.0+ Most recent page ?? It was uploaded 4 hours ago. I'm still confused

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/644130/straight_to_the_groin/

[loup226]

my new video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/644124/how_m...u_10_000_birds/ time stamp 4 hour ago and i dont see it in most recent ???

[kipkay]

With a 3.30 shouldn't this video show up on the 3.0+ Most recent page ?? It was uploaded 4 hours ago. I'm still confused

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/644130/straight_to_the_groin/

No, probably not quite enough views/ranks yet. Vieos WILL appear on the Most Recent using the ALL RANKS drop down but will not be released to the Most Recent general index until it has enough views/ranks.

[kipkay]

my new video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/644124/how_m...u_10_000_birds/ time stamp 4 hour ago and i dont see it in most recent ???

No, probably not quite enough views/ranks yet. Vieos WILL appear on the Most Recent using the ALL RANKS drop down but will not be released to the Most Recent general index until it has enough views/ranks.

[MaKaVeLi]

so first it get's to all ranks then to 3.00+ is that the way it's working now ? did i get it right ?